Slidge - XMPP gateways - 2025-02-20

singpolyma, erm yeah matridge does not have "contacts" 😬

singpolyma, I sent you an log as a MUC whisper here

slidge sends: ```xml <field var="contacts" label="Contacts to add to the new group" type="list-multi"> <option label="xxx"> <value>xxx@telegram.slidge.im/slidge</value> </option> <!--other options --> <value /> <!-- no preselected value, maybe that's what's bad? --> </field> ``` ✏

and cheogram replies with that empty `<value />` on top of the `option`s the user picked

> Question..is it technically possible to show added or modified contact in telegram WhatsApp and discord sync contacts by the username ? For the moment only a number is given how many contacts have been added removed or modified no. that would probably be noisy but it does sound relatively easy to implement, open a feature request and we can discuss it there ↺

nicoco pushed 10 commit(s) to slidge - chore(deps): prevent implicit major version bumps (nicoco) - chore(deps): remove pickle-secure (nicoco) - refactor: cleanup deprecated "pickle-secure" feature (nicoco) - refactor(xep): remove XEP-0356 < 0.4 support (nicoco) - imprv(adhoc): return 'forbidden' instead of empty adhoc command list (nicoco) https://codeberg.org/slidge/slidge/compare/3c69945ca..f9bfc7487

nicoco: it's too early to code, go back to sleep!

but you're up!

try being 40 and having your brain decide "yup it's 5, no more sleeping for you now"

Had a train to go to work at 6:45 anyway

ughhh work, yuk

Can't argue with that

there's also this "having kids" thing and thinking in bed "well I can probably code a little today if I get up before them" ^^ ✏

https://codeberg.org/slidge/slidge/issues/45

Here you go nicoco

Deadline : 24 hours

😁🤣

Sure thing, you a slidge premium subscriber after all!

Fait enough

I see some nice issues ... Waiting for it 🤞😎

nicoco: ok, so I agree this is a bug in cheogram android and am working on a fix, but also I think including a value that isn't part of your options is highly unusual vs just including no value

https://s3.sr.ht/builds.sr.ht/artifacts/~singpolyma/1434233/c522595aa9400b56/cheogram.apk should fix it

Whelp, I just got added to a WhatsApp Community, I guess I really need to implement support now

Likely will need to mark certain groups as belonging to a Community so that they're not returned alongside other groups -- wondering how easy it will be to persist this info in the DB

> there's also this "having kids" thing and thinking in bed "well I can probably code a little today if I get up before them" ^^ 😁 ↺

deuill: either implement or change friends, your call

> assuming I have friends

singpolyma, this is probablmaybe slixmpp's default behaviour

> > assuming I have friends I have seen your übersocialite game my friend. Don't pretend! ↺

nicoco, do we have an example of a `Group` (or similar) sub-class defining additional data to be stored in DB?

I seem to remember you had a JSON blob/key-value field defined in the schema

Hmmm the `extra_attributes` stuff, if I understand correctly.

Oh hmmm seems like this might be the thing: https://codeberg.org/slidge/slidgram/src/commit/3b8506f4b2c80c924420009195af0b9bcc7eab68/slidgram/group.py#L406-L410

yes this is it. why do you not want them to be among other groups?

you can add_to_bookmarks(autojoin=False)

and maybe set MucType.CHANNEL?

Communities are processed as "special" WhatsApp groups, with sub-groups (a General one and an Announcements one, by default); sending a message to the Community "group" returns a 401, so these should never be added to bookmarks. Similarly, Announcement groups should have the Community name as a prefix, but don't by default.

So I want to keep track of Communities separately and potentially automatically prepend the Community name for some groups.

AFAICT Communities are like Discord Servers, only they exist within the present ontology in weird ways.

Dunno if that's a good description, they lack voice channels afaik.

I'm almost sleeping so maybe what I'm about to say is nonsense but I don't see why bookmarks and not sending messages in it are related?

To bridge the "not having voice" part, you want to do `(await muc.get_user_participant().role = "visitor")`, example https://codeberg.org/slidge/slidgram/src/branch/main/slidgram/group.py#L120-L122

Maybe the user might not know that they're not supposed to send a message there so they do it anyway and then Slidge might want to suck it up and tell them that they suck instead of trying to deliver it and making you look sus to the WhatsApp servers.

hmmm maybe Peter, but re-reading what deuill wrote I actually think the community itself is useless and the "announcement" group is a different group anyway

deuill: we need some thing in slidge core for "discord servers", "mattermost teams", "whatsapp communities", and "matrix something (forgot their terminology)"

Ah yeah Slidge was creating some big fat groups with LIDs inside which you couldn't join without your client crashing as they had like 200000 members in the muc.

also llarma told me that we should do something to expose these "spaces" and spec it, it won't cover the ultimate "spaces XEP" that everyone wants but no one writes, but it would be a start…

The AI?

no, the dino dev

lol

Okay sorry.

single L I guess

I should sleep now, mixing larma with llama, not good ^^

Sleep well and have nice dreams!

yeah, the spaces space in XMPP is sadly a bit short on people actually proposing something concrete